19 July 2023
On this week’s From The Courtroom to the Boardroom, Dr Louise Ashley, Associate Professor and IHSS Fellow at the School of Business and Management, and the Author of Highly Discriminating: Why the City Isn’t Fair and Diversity Doesn’t Work – talks to me about Equality, Diversity and Inclusion in large businesses. We discuss Louise’s impressive career journey to become one of the UK’s specialists in researching the implementation and development of Diversity and Inclusion. She gives an insightful view on social class, manufactured corporate equality, issues surrounding networking, equality of outcome vs equality of opportunity and there’s even a debate about identity politics and feminism.
LISTEN ►
Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/re-evaluating-equality-in-law-real-outcomes-and-goals/id1568863282?i=1000621574936
Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/episode/7sewi23HxoddslBsXpOT4C?si=wZ-BihvdRLOm_2vZFgRy5g
CHAPTERS ►
0:00 Introduction
4:24 Louise’s career journey
6:07 Social class
9:45 Louise’s findings on diversity & equality
14:14 Manufactured corporate equality
22:49 Ad read
24:15 How do we measure talent?
27:15 Issues surrounding networking
31:30 Equality of outcome vs equality of opportunity
37:10 Allison Bailey case
41:13 Legitimacy & reputation in business
42:35 Identity politics, feminism & debate
47:11 What is fairness?
49:57 What really makes diversity work?
57:22 Political alternatives
01:00:03 “Some people are poor, because some people are rich”
01:00:42 Highly Discriminating: Why the City Isn’t Fair and Diversity Doesn’t Work